From Drug Kingpin to Pastor: A True Story of Redemption Ep 21

0:00 And you know what? When the largest nonprofit, which is the Church of Jesus Christ, comes together, the homicide rate dropped by 20%. That was the biggest dip that Chicago had seen at that point. Welcome to the Bennett Broadcast. I'm Matt Bennett. Thanks for joining me as we explore what it means to seek the Lord wholeheartedly, to grow strong in faith, and to be fully devoted to God in today's world. When we do, He will pour out His Spirit and bring revival like never before. Hey, Matt Bennett here with the Bennett Broadcast, and we got a special guest with us today, a man who knows the Lord and knows what it means to seek his face, Nehemiah Salabarius.

0:48 We're gonna get to know him a little bit, but I will have him on here because we got to see real world examples of what it means for a person to put the Lord Jesus Christ first and the type of regularity and intensity in order for him to pour out his spirit and to radically bless our families, communities, and the nation with revival. So, Dimas, welcome. Hey, honored to be on. So glad to be with you. Yeah, so we'll talk a little bit about Demos' conversion because I think that's so interesting. I think they'll really be interested in this, but then also this stirring up of seeking the Lord and why he puts such incredible time and focus in this.

1:30 practice in his life. Now he's married and has a couple of wonderful girls, lives up in the Bronx. And I'm down a little bit South of him in Manhattan. We see each other a lot in New York city. So Dimas, I mean, you wrote a whole book on your conversion. So amazing story of lives being radically changed. It reminds me of the great story of David Wilkerson and what he did with the gangs and everything. But anyway, you got your own story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's I'm honored and thank you for asking me about that. You know, came from a wonderful family.

2:11 Mother was a principal. Father was a captain of correction. But I got pulled into the drug world. I mean, they were telling me you'll have a car when you graduate from college, which seemed like fantastic. 50 years away from me and I was seeing young people my age already achieving those things in their lives through Selling illegal pharmaceuticals, you know drugs on the street And I Tell your testimony to subway And I said, you know what? I said, I want that money now. Dived into that lifestyle, which was very painful.

2:54 I mean, one time, Matt, I was nearly beat close to a death experience. And the guy put a gun to my head to shoot me in a basement. And it was just the nick of time that somebody rang the doorbell on top of his video store he owned and that guy's away from murder in jail right now. So he would have definitely did it. So, uh, so I know God was intervening along the way. My mother was praying for me and praying for me, putting my name in a, in a, in a church, a prayer box. that the intercessors would lift up. And I made it all the way to North Carolina, escaped from New York with handcuffs.

3:40 And they were trying to, the cops had caught me and were trying to take me to Rikers Island. And I escaped, went to North Carolina, became a kingpin drug dealer, controlled a large portion of the drugs in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. And right in the midst of that, my mother gathered my family together and she felt from an unction of the Holy Spirit that her son was going to be murdered. And she prayed the prayer that I think was absolutely amazing. And the words she told me is she said, God, you be his mother. You be his father.

4:20 You reach him because I cannot. And she said, Lord Jesus, I give my son to you. And all the way on North Carolina, A friend did pull me out the house, walk me to the backyard, put a gun to my head to execute me. And every time he pulled the trigger, it went tink, and he clicked it again. It went tink, tink. And by the power of Jesus Christ, that gun did not work. By the power of Jesus Christ, that gun did not work. And in that backyard, I prayed the best prayer I've ever prayed after him and his friend took off running and drove off.

5:07 I stayed in that backyard and I said, God, you saved my life. Wherever you want me to go, whatever you want me to do, I am yours. And that was my total surrender to Christ. Turned myself in, was facing seven years for that escape charge. And the judge asked me, why did I turn myself in? And I told her, I'm a follower of Jesus Christ and I will follow Jesus, whether it means in jail or out of jail. They took me out of the court, called me back in 10 minutes later.

5:49 And she said, I'm going to do something that I've never done before. She said, I'm going to release you and I'm going to tell you why. She said, I'm afraid if I send you back to jail, you'll become who you used to be. And I love who I'm seeing right now. And she gave me a chance and I've been following Christ ever since, serving him boldly, trying to live out my commitment to God and been honoring him ever since. Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Praise God. Now we met when I first, I lived in Jersey for a long time and then I moved to New York city about 16 years ago and we met pretty soon.

6:30 Cause at that time you just started working for concerts of prayer in New York. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. And what attracted you to that role? Um, I kind of came up in Christianity in concerts of prayer. I was always invited to all the prayer summits, even though I wasn't a pastor. And I would say to my mentor at the time, the late Andy Puglio, who was a navigator, he's like, just come with me more as court than tort. And he'd say, just roll with me. I'm going to introduce you to everybody. He introduced me to Tim Keller. He introduced me to Bishop Ezra Williams, Mac Peer, all these guys.

7:16 And I was always like a youth leader at the time. But, and he saw the leadership gifts in me. So then years later, I remember I had an encounter with, Richard Stearns, who was the president of World Vision at the time. And we were way at this Q conference. And I was reading a book on becoming a CEO or president of an organization. And I believe this was Richard Stearns' first prophetic word he ever had. He just stopped me in my tracks and he said, I just feel overwhelmed to say this to you. He said, I'm but I believe God's gonna make you a president of an organization.

8:03 So I flew back. And anybody knows Richard Stern is not a distal. He's just not that kind of guy. And but I flew back to New York and my wife kept telling me I was jogging, you know, exercising. She kept calling me and calling me saying, concerts of prayer is reaching out to you. And I called Gary Frost. And this is what I heard. which is kind of a joke. He said, after all of our research, after all of our thinking, we think you'll be the worst person to be the president of concerts of prayer. And I said, I said, why are you calling me to tell me that?

8:45 He said, did you hear what I said? I said, I said, no. He said, after all of our research, we think you'll be the best candidate to be president of concerts of prayer. Wow. And what was funny, Matt, while I was jogging, I heard the Lord, I was going over this high hill. It was a hard hill. And God said, this is what I'm going to do with you. I'm going to take you over this hill. He said, as you go down this hill, he said, I'm telling you, I have a blessing for you. And I knew majority of the pastors already in New York City. I had a high networking gift.

9:27 I'm good at convening leaders and people together. And I humbly say, It worked out very well. I broke every record that Concerts of Prayer has ever had. I raised more resources for it. I broke the attendance record at the prayer summit and faithfully led it for five years. And I... and tried to increase the prayer in New York City. Because like you, Matt, I wanted to see revival come to our city. I wanted to see people praying and seeking after God. And man, I was throwing prayer meetings all the time all over the city and saw great, great results.

10:12 Oh, yeah, yeah. And Concerts of Prayer, for those who don't know, was started back in like 1990. It was David Bryant who started it or so, and you came into it about 2010, I guess, or 12. Yeah, around 2010. And the main gathering or program that happens every year is a gathering of pastors for a few days in January and a lot of other initiatives, but that's kind of the big marquee kind of gathering with that. And Mac Pierce is still involved with them. It's had some leadership change and everything, but still going on. Praise God brings a lot of people together, pastors together, too, with a heart and mindset to understand what it means to seek God and pray.

10:56 So that's a beautiful thing. So, yeah, that's when we met. And I also found out then that you believed in the power of fasting. I think I was on maybe an extended fast myself. And so I think we kind of pondered on that. There were many people who... see the value of that, even though it's in the scriptures everywhere, and it's part of what it means to seek the Lord and to please Him. So tell me, how was it from the very beginning? I mean, you have a lot of influences in your life. You have people like Tim Keller. He was a mentor of yours, but... via radio, John MacArthur, but also more charismatic people as well, influence on you. So you're kind of a hybrid of a lot of different things, and you roll in all sorts of different circles.

11:39 When did the kind of heart for seeking the Lord and all that entails, how did that grow and develop in you? It happened during the time of my conversion in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. For three days, the Lord instructed me not to eat. And he only allowed me to drink, which was odd. I only drank water and orange juice during those three days. And I didn't know what I was doing, but I felt he was drawing me closer and closer to himself.

12:23 And right around the time of the ending of that, he had me do all night prayer. And I didn't even know of such a thing. I was reading my Bible. I was standing up right outside of what would be called today a trap house, a house that people were getting high and using drugs. And I was standing outside ministering to them and praying and ministering to them and reading the word. And I was praying. And they stopped. getting high and they were just, thank you, God. And they were praising God with me. And I was praying and seeking the Lord. And I did this until the sun came up six in the morning.

13:06 It was the easiest all night prayer I've ever had in my life. And I just felt his presence on me. And I didn't even know how to preach, but I was just telling them like, God is telling me right now he loves you. God is telling me he needs you. And I would read verses and I would cry out to God. And so I think... this was like a preparation that the Holy Spirit was doing because I know around that time I needed deliverance from a lot of things. So I believe he took me on this special type of journey. And during that time, I had the liberty and the freedom that God would say, I want you to go over here and pray.

13:50 I want you to go up on this hilltop. I want you to sit over here by this lake. And it was like I was being led step by step by the Holy Spirit. And then when I came to New York, I had a passion for evangelism. So I just started trying to, and I didn't know how to evangelize. I just would bring groups and groups of people to church to hear the message. I'll bang on people's doors. I will wake people up and say, get dressed. You're coming with me. We're going to church. We're going to church. And I will call churches and say, send me a van. I have 10 people. They need to come and hear the Lord. And I just felt like I was an instrument for the Lord.

14:34 And I knew that very clearly that God wanted to use me to help people come to Christ. And then— If I can interrupt one second. Yeah. Because what you said earlier, some people listening to this are kind of wonder about, and that is hearing God's voice. Because you said, you know, God wanted me to do this and God told me to pray. For some Christians, that's a new experience. I wish it weren't, but it is. And, uh, how do you, when you hear and you feel like God's speaking to you, and of course, for those who don't, Demos believes in the authority of the scriptures, the scriptures are supreme and, and anything you might hear from God's against the scriptures is not from the Lord.

15:15 But that being said, you, you talked about the Lord wanting you to go to prayer and, and, and not eat for three days. How did that come to you? How did you feel like that was from the Lord? At that time, Matt, I walked with the Bible everywhere I went. And sometimes when I would be reading in the Bible, I would feel this presence. It was a very joyful presence, something I wasn't used to when I was in the world. And when that presence was on me, these impression thoughts would come upon me almost like with an instruction.

15:55 Like it would hit my mind and it would say like, you know, this thought would come up, don't eat, don't eat. You know, I'm doing something in you. I'm doing something in. And it would just keep going. Like I didn't, it wasn't like do three days. It was just like, don't eat. So I didn't eat. And then the next day, it just kept coming. Don't eat. Keep seeking me. Keep reading. Keep praying. And I just kept reading and praying. And then another day went by. And then it was kind of like after that was done, it was like in my spirit, I knew, whoa, Uh, that, that, that was over.

16:35 So he was kind of guiding me like that. And still to this day, it's the same voice. It's the same presence. Um, I want to stay as humble and as desperate as, as I've always been to be, uh, in, in, in tune with him. Thanks for that. And I speak to a lot of people. As you know, our ministry is to some very academically intense schools. And so a lot of people I deal with, alumni and students are very developed in the cognitive side of their minds, which is beautiful and helps them to read the scriptures and analyze, which is paramount. And sometimes, though, it's undeveloped to this, being able to hear God's voice like you're describing.

17:21 So thanks for describing that, because a lot of people are looking. And I think of a mentor of mine who said how important it is that we distinguish between our own flesh and our own mind and versus what the Lord is saying versus what the devil is saying. And that's the scriptures first, but it's also hearing God, as you're saying here, because so much happens when we're in step with them in these ways. Yeah. Thanks for that example. So it sounds like from the very beginning, you're listening to the Lord and obeying it. Yeah. And could I add to that? I also have always talked to this type of audience and I found that... It was the surrendering and the willingness to desire him, like how it says in one of our favorite verses in Hebrews 11, 6, that he rewards those who diligently seek after him.

18:20 And I think my heart was really seeking after him. I wanted to know him personally. And in whatever the cost was, you know, if it meant fasting, I think that helped a lot, probably cleared some of the noise out. I think also quieting myself. You know, I'm sure I was doing a lot of things like silent type retreats, not even knowing that that's what I was doing. But I would sit somewhere and I was desperate, like, I want to hear from you, God. Please speak to me, God. And I was very relentless in my pursuit of having his presence because that's all I knew.

19:05 Outside of that, I just didn't—it was a desperation, definitely. So this was part of your DNA from the beginning, which is why you're such a great candidate for that role in Concerts of Prayer, because you love seeking the Lord in prayer and fasting. Excuse me. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. So, uh, so, and then I think of, I mean, all the times you fasted for certain outcomes, all the time that you've prayed at length and your regular discipline as well as special occasions are, are numerous in so many ways. Uh, but, uh, I think of the time when me, you and two other guys decided to go in for a month.

19:49 This is like what, five years ago. Yeah. I think it was your idea. Wasn't it? No, it was yours. Yeah. You had came back from Fiji and you said, maybe it was a collective. You said, wouldn't it be amazing if we took a month like some of these people did and John Melende and you were talking about these great people that sought after God. And then I think I said, well, why don't we do it? And then, you know, you kind of bounce back. We both have a very strong masculine vibe to us.

20:34 So it was definitely iron sharpening iron. And you was like, well, why not? And then I said, well, if you can convince my wife. Then why don't we do it? And then she pulled up and you went over there and said, Tiffany, wouldn't it be great if we took a month to seek the Lord? And she said, that would be incredible. And I said, yeah. And then you said, we take the weekends off, but Monday through Friday. And then it wasn't even long after that. It seemed like a few weeks, even if it was, I don't even remember how long it was, but you were like, hey, let's start it. on this date and let's just do it.

21:14 And, uh, and you and I and two others, and then other encouragement groups were coming along the way in and out of the process. But, but the four of us did it flawlessly from 6 AM to 8 PM. And that was one of the greatest months of prayer of my entire life. That was absolutely incredible. Four weeks. That's right. Monday through Friday, 6 a.m. to 8. We would fast up until dinner. We'd have dinner like at 7 p.m. together. And what was interesting is you're not, I mean, I'm around some people who are very charismatic-y, very prophetic, very visionary. You hear from God, but not like that, like some people roll.

21:57 But you were getting all sorts of kind of different visions. Wow. It was pretty extraordinary. I said, wow, this is powerful. Wow. That, I don't think I've ever had open heavens consistently like that period. And even in that period, someone invested in me because I was wondering, like, if we're not working for a month, how we're going to make it? And someone sent a gift. of 50,000 to the ministry that I didn't have to worry about anything.

22:37 And we were texting, we were running out of so many prayers. We were texting different people like, hey, send me stuff we could pray for, send me stuff we could pray for. And just by doing that, one of the guys said, hey, I'm sending you something in the mail. And I was like, what in the, so, so everything was like working out. And, uh, and at the same time, the enemy was stirred up. Uh, Matt Bennett can, uh, a test, a window in my backyard just shattered. Uh. Out of nowhere, my wife went to open the car door two times. The key broke in the car. Another time, the key broke in the car.

23:18 We were like, what's going on? So for our listeners, as we're seeking God powerfully like that, the enemy was frustrated. He was upset. And I think especially relevant about those was that she really needed you to come help her with those during the day. Yeah. So we saw that as the Lord, not that you certainly encountered a challenge in your life much greater than those, but these were things that really needed your attention seeking you to take you away from these four weeks of seeking God all day. So that was a distraction. But I remember also, too, some pastor friends of yours speaking to you. And this, I mean, it was amazing, but more or less trying to discourage you from it.

24:02 More or less sort of saying, well, you don't really need to do that. It's like, man, this is the problem with our lack of spiritual power in the U.S. that even pastors will discourage people from seeking his face. Yeah. We wrestle, as Ephesians says in Ephesians 6 and 12, we wrestle not against flesh and blood. So we always have to be mindful because I used to fall for this all the time. And Matt didn't say this, but I only went when the window broke. For the keys, I was like, I was like, this is a distraction. You know, handle it.

24:43 Locksmith, Zell, whatever way you got to do it, get it taken care of. But the enemy will rise up those that are not seeking God to discourage you. And that has been something, a part of my whole journey. I love your friends. And I'm talking about Christians. Yeah. Yeah. Christians. Right when I first got saved, I used to go up to the altar because I was, I had so much, a part of authentic salvation is deep, true remorse for your sins. And I had remorse over my sins. I had remorse over my habit of a foul language.

25:26 You know, the cursing didn't leave day one. And I would be talking to the pastor and words were coming out. And I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. So, you know, I was always just so broken asking God to strip these things away. And people would come and say, why do you keep going up for prayer? Like, you're done. You don't need to go up anymore. And I said, maybe you are. But I'm not. And I always remember, it'd always be a lady that was smoking cigarettes outside, half living for God, you know, just going through the church. And it was always, I used to see the nasty spirit, not saying all people that smoke, but I used to see the nasty spirit on her trying to set me straight.

26:13 And I used to tell her, you need to be freed. You need to come and give everything up for God, you know. Yeah. You aren't going up to be born again, again. No. You're just going up to meet with God and converse with Him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Yeah. I also want to ask you, we've got a lot more to talk about in terms of prayer and fasting and seek of the Lord, but we might have to have another interview at a time because I also want to ask you about In addition to ministering a lot, and you're a pastor for a while too, and then you're also kind of an at-large minister, and you're co-founder of Heritage Pastors Association, and do a lot with that.

26:54 But also you work in making films, both drama and documentaries. Yes. That's a very interesting combination. Want to talk about that a little bit? Yes. Yeah, I mean, for me, I came from a family of filmmakers, came from a family of actresses and things of that nature. Sheila Ann Geis is one of my cousins who was the Halle Berry of the 1940s, and she was the lead Black woman in a lead Black woman. in America, in the old black and white movies. So that was always somehow in my DNA, always in my dreams and things like that.

27:38 And the first film came from meeting you, Matt. You brought over a guy named Brian Ivey, And it was right around the time the Lord spoke to my wife prophetically. She has much more of a prophetic gift than I do. And she said, the Lord is saying that we're going to start making films. And I helped with the film Emmanuel about the church shooting in South Carolina, how the Holy Spirit filled those people to forgive the killer. And they tried to lead them to Jesus. Yeah. Then following that, God... I want to hear following, but you got to tell the story of you finding that woman in here.

28:21 Oh, yes, yes. So I didn't know anything about producing. And my responsibility was making things happen. You know, that's what I understood production was. So anytime we were doing something, boom, I got this, I got that. We're taking care of this. We're making this happen. So the director... He was filled with the Holy Spirit. And he said, Dimas, we're paying for this location. It's going to cost us $10,000. And you have to have this woman there on Monday. And I said, I don't. One of the women who were in that church. Yeah, one of the women that survived the terrible shooting that happened in South Carolina when Dylann Roof killed nine people inside of a leadership meeting in a church.

29:12 And this woman had, yeah, she had her son's body on top of her As his blood soaked her, she had to play like she was dead. And horrible situation to be in. And we couldn't find her. Couldn't find her anywhere. Tried to find a picture online. Couldn't find her. She had a basic name, you know, Felicia Sanders, 10,000 faces come up. She didn't do any interviews. And I just said, I was so frustrated one morning. And I said, Lord, I said, I need you to do this.

29:53 And I got so deep in my soul and prayer that tears started coming down my face. And I said, Lord, I need you to put this woman in the airport. I was about to fly back home to take care of some stuff for my family and fly back for the shoot. And I said, before you went back. Yeah, yeah. I was already in South Carolina, had to go to New York and then come back to finish the shoot. And I just said, Lord, put her in the airport. Put her in the airport. And then I said, you know what, Jesus? Put her on my plane. I started saying, put her on my plane.

30:35 In the name of Jesus, put her on my plane. Uber comes, I go to the airport, I'm walking through the airport, and every black woman I saw, I just turned and was like, is that her? And I'm looking everywhere, is this her, is this her? And it would always be somebody too young or way too old. And when I got right to my gate before entering the plane, I said to myself, I said, Demos, this is my terms. I said, Demos, you're bugging out, okay? Relaxed. This may not happen. So I sat down and I put my bag down.

31:16 And when I turned to my left, this woman backed up like this. And I said, are you Felicia? And she said, yes. And I said, you're Felicia Sanders from the Emanuel Nine. And she said, yes. She said, I'm Pastor Demos. I've been looking for you. And she said, I heard, because Charleston's a small town. I said, I don't know what this means, but let me just tell you something. So I grabbed my phone and I showed her a picture of what we just filmed. I said, we just filmed this shot of the death of Denmark Vesey, a Christian man that died in Charleston trying to push back against slavery.

32:05 And I said, does this mean anything to you? She grabbed the book and said, I'm reading Denmark VC's book. And I said to her, I said, Felicia, I prayed for you to be on this plane. I asked Jesus for you to be on this plane. I said, is this enough? Like, is there anything God needs to show you that you belong in this movie? She said, no, I'm going to do it. I said, I need you back home in New York. Say yes. And we got on the plane. I left her alone. And I just bowed before the Lord and I said, Lord, anytime I doubt you, anytime I don't believe, remind me of this moment that you did this for me.

32:55 And, uh, she was there on Monday and we finished the movie. That's great. I know there's a little bit of a distraction diversion, but such an amazing story. I love hearing it again, but so the movies that you're working on now or releasing, tell us about that. Well, the big one I'd like to share right now is Chicago, America's Hidden War. And Denzel Washington has executive produced this. This is available right now on Amazon Prime. And it is, we were seeking, like we were doing Jeremiah 29 and seven, we were seeking the peace of the city of Chicago because their homicide rate has surpassed the death of American casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq put together in the same 19 year time period.

33:49 In the 19 year time period, A little over 4,000 people were killed in Iraq. 10,000 people were killed in Chicago. Even Donald Trump and others were calling for the National Guard to go into Chicago. So I said, hey, let's mobilize the churches. Let me use my leverage of concerts of prayer. And then I went there and did an extended fast of 17 days of no food. And then we continued to 35 days adding some vitamins and some supplements to to keep me going because I had a small hospital scare.

34:33 Sometimes my heart rate goes very, very faint on long fasts for whatever reason in my body. So we fasted, we prayed, we mobilized the church together, and you will see the power. power of God show up in this movie. Through fasting and praying, the churches just got lit on fire. Drug dealers would go in there saying, take my guns. I don't want them anymore. Kids were coming. I want to submit to Christ. One kid said, I got a contract on my head. I went online and threatened this gang and I'm 15 years old and I don't know what to do. And we ministered to that kid and told the gangs not to shoot that kid.

35:16 We went to the blocks and told them, don't shoot. We're going to come and barbecue. And we saturated the streets. with the gospel, barbecues, prayer meetings, preaching on the streets. And you know what? When the largest nonprofit, which is the Church of Jesus Christ, comes together, the homicide rate dropped by 20%. That was the biggest dip that Chicago had seen at that point. And they were dumbfounded on how God did that. And the methods were simple, praying, fasting, seeking the Lord, going into the streets, talking to people, sharing Christ, worshiping him, calling him.

35:58 calling on him. We were on the most dangerous blocks, just calling out to God, taking oil and putting crosses in the streets. They thought we were crazy. What are these guys doing? Pouring Mazzola oil and making a cross. I was just taking a big gallon. We were going after Jesus. Like you couldn't believe and it made the difference. And it is a movie worthy of you watching. And it's called Chicago, America's Hidden Wall on Amazon Prime. Amen. Amen. And we'll wrap up this interview, but I need you on another time. But I got to go to the premiere of that out in California. Yes! To see that.

36:39 That was great. An incredible documentary showing the power of prayer and Christians gathering together to seek God's face at a strong, powerful level. Not the level that we're used to. Nobody I know who's a Christian is against prayer, but it doesn't mean it's at the level that it needs to be in order for us to see the wickedness and darkness pushed back. And that's our problem in the U.S. It's not that we don't seek the Lord at all. We do seek him, but not wholeheartedly, not at the level that is needed, for the level of wickedness in the hour that we're in. And thanks for modeling otherwise. So I want to close out here with a prayer, but we'll have you on another time. Thanks for mentioning that.

37:20 So Father, we love and praise and thank you, Lord. Thank you for Demos and the inspiration he's been for me and for so many. Bless him, strengthen him. And Father, may many people who listen to this be radically inspired to go deeper and go harder and to seek your face in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. God bless you. Keep looking up. Keep Christ number one. Love you, man. Thank you for joining me for this episode of the Bennett Broadcast. To learn more and find additional resources to help you grow in your walk with God, visit BennettBroadcast.com. To accelerate this movement of helping America return to God, visit ChristianUnion.org slash Cornerstone.

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